From a Comment by UraniumC
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3 years ago
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Well said, James. This is maybe the best thing I’ve yet to read on the subject.
here’s my 2-cents:
as mentioned elsewhere in the comments, at a certain point you’re going to have to invest what you’ve earned, and that comes down to indexing vs. active management. Yours or some fund manager’s.
Always a fascinating debate and I’ve been on both sides of it at various times in my 60 years. For a very long time I laughed at the indexers. I made all of the arguments and then some.
After all, if you just avoided the obvious dogs you’d do better than average, right? Who would be stupid enough to own GM a couple of years ago? Or Ford? Opps. Better forget about Ford. Hindsight is a beautiful and perfect thing.
I even took a major pay cut to join an investment research firm mid-career. There I was surrounded by exceedingly bright people. Each focused on one, maybe two industries and perhaps 6-10 stocks. More than one was honored in the trade press as “Analyst of the Year” for their work.
They knew each of these companies inside and out. They knew the top executives. They knew the middle-managers and the front line people. They knew the customers. They spoke to all of them weekly. Sometimes daily.
They didn’t get info before everyone else (that’s insider trading and illegal, and common). But they did know exactly when and how the info would be released, as did every other competent analyst around the world. Any new information was reflected in the stock price within minutes.
They issued reports our institutional investor clients paid dearly for in soft dollars. And yet, predicting stock performance remained frustratingly elusive.
If you’ve worked in a publicly traded corporation it is not hard to see why. The CEO and CFO work with internal forecasts from their teams. The process looks something like this:
Salespeople are required to forecast what their customers will spend. Since these buys are rarely locked in far in advance, and can be cancelled anytime, nothing is certain. Add to this all the pending business that may or may not come to fruition and basically you are asking the field salesperson to predict the future. So, of course, they take a guess.
These guesses get passed on to their managers, who now have their own forecasts and decisions to make. Do I take these sales forecasts at face value? Do I adjust them based on knowing Suzy is an optimist and Harry always sees dark clouds? So, of course, they take a guess and pass it on to the next layer of management.
So it goes until all these guesses are consolidated into the nicely packaged budget/forecast binders presented to top management. More often than not, after one look, they’ll say: “This is unacceptable. We can’t present this forecast to Wall Street. Go back and revise these numbers.” Back down the chain it goes. Maybe multiple times, and each time the numbers get a bit further from reality.
Now predicting the future is a dicey proposition for even the most gifted psychics, and they are not burdened with this process.
Suddenly my enormous hubris was clear. Somehow reading a few books and 10ks was going to give me an edge? Over not only the professional analysts who lived a breathed this stuff all day every day, but also the executives that ran the companies in question? I could succeed where they could not?
Suddenly I realized why even rock star fund managers find it almost impossible to best the simple index over time.
There is a reason names like Buffet and Lynch are so revered and well known. There are also reasons more fortunes have been made brokering trades than making them.
That’s why I’m an indexer. If you choose to try to best the averages, God Bless and God Speed. You may well be smarter and more talented than I. You are most certainly likely to be better looking. I’ll look for your name along with Warren and Peter’s in the not too distant future.
I extend the same to all those folks I’ve met in Vegas who assure me they have bested the house. I listen, gaze up at the billion dollar casinos and reflect on how many smarter, more talented and better looking people there are than me.
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April 2011
10 Reasons You Should Never Own Stocks Again
James Altucher
I’m
really bullish on stocks and the economy but I don’t think you should
waste your money investing in stocks. You might as well flush it down
the toilet. Or throw a big party.
Don’t give it to charity either. We already went over that. And please
don’t buy a home. Just relax a little bit if you have some extra money.
I’ve been writing about stocks for almost ten years now. The first
time I ever got paid for writing anything was a check for $200 I got
from thestreet.com when I wrote in late 2001 about stocks that were
trading for less than the cash they had in the bank. I never cashed the
check.
10 Reasons Not to Buy Stocks
1. You’re not that good at it. Its
really hard to buy stocks. Its not just picking stocks and watching it
go up 10,000%. Its buying them and watching them go down 80% before they
end up going 20% from your original price. Its waiting. Psychology is
at least 80% of the game. I don’t need to go over the statistics. Most
people sell at the bottom and buy at the high.
I think I’m pretty good at it but maybe I’m fooling myself also.
Because I can think of at least 3 times when I sold most of my holdings
at the low and bought at the high. Even after I had years of
experience. Sometimes its psychology, and sometimes you just have to do
it. There’s only so much money you want to lose. So if you hit that
point, and you sell your stocks, and then they go up, then guess what –
you just sold at the low. Congrats. You’re a disciplined idiot. Just
like me.
(9 out of 10 people think they are an above average drive. 9 0ut of
10 people think they are an above average investor. Both are impossible)
2. Your competition wants to slit your throat in a
dark alley. You know how Batman’s dad got killed? He’s walking in the
street with his beautiful bejeweled wife and his innocent little son,
Bruce. Then this guy comes up to them and says, “give me your wallet and
your jewels”. So Dr. Wayne (somehow he made billions being a doctor but
thats another story) hands over his wallet and his wife’s jewels.
Bruce, the son, is scared to death. Then you know what happens?
The thief shoots the father and mother in the head and runs away. He
ALREADY had the money and he still shot them in the head and killed them
when they had nothing left. Little Bruce watches and screams while
blood streams out of his both his parents. Hopefully they died
instantly.
I happen to know who that thief is. Warren Buffett. And you are Bruce
Wayne’s dad. Warren Buffett, Stevie Cohen, all the great investors go
outside every day and they want to take your wallet, steal your
diamonds, maybe rape you, and then after they’ve gotten everything they
can get from you, they are going to shoot you in the head in front of
your child and run off into the dark of the night.
Good luck fighting that kind of competition.
3. Competition, part II. A broker once told me this about Stevie Cohen. (see also,
“How Stevie Cohen Changed My Life”)
I don’t know if its true. I don’t care. Its just gossip. Maybe it was
even a joke but he was a broker and he told me this. I’m not making any
accusation. But the story was this. Cohen would find out where the CFO
of a public company was going on vacation. Then he’d send a guy over
there. Suddenly on the beach, the two would just happen to be getting
their tans right next to each other, share a few margaritas, the
information starts flowing. I’m not saying inside information. Its all
just conversation. And it might not be Stevie Cohen. Its any of these
guys. Every day there’s one dollar up for sale. Who is going to win that
one dollar. You? Or the guy who sends his private detective to lie down
on the beach next to the CFO of the Next Big Thing.
4. Competition, part III. I know another guy. He has
code that scours the FDA databases looking for any microscopic changes
in any documents. You know what happens when some of those documents
change just a little? A press release comes out a week later. A stock
gets halted. It opens up or down 50%. Who is going to win the dollar?
You, or the guy who wrote 100,000 lines of code scouring the FDA
databases.
5. It’s mostly a scam. I’ve been in or involved with
senior management on two public companies and, additionally, have known
many public CFOs. I would never ever trust any number that comes out on
a 10Q, no matter how GAAP compliant it is according to government
standards. Enron was GAAP compliant. Until they were bankrupt and
everyone either went to jail or mysteriously died. If you were fully
loaded in their stocks you might die also. From pills or a noose or from
mistreatment in a mental health clinic. Because its not fun what
happens to the shareholders. (see,
“Should Insider Trading Be Legal”?)
6. True wealth in the stock market only comes if you make all the wrong decisions and then get lucky.
I’ll give you an example: imagine having 100% of your portfolio in one
stock, never ever diversifying for 20 or 30 years, and watching it
sometimes go down over 50%, maybe even in a day. Guess who makes
mistakes like that. Bill Gates (MSFT stock) and Warren Buffett (BRK-A
stock) [See,
8 Unusual Things I've Learned About Warren Buffett].
So the guys who make real stock market wealth never diversify and never
sell. You know how many guys get rich like that? Less than 100. Then
there’s the other 100 million people who own stocks.
7.The best investors in the world make on average between 10 and 15%.
We already know because of the above that you are probably not going to
be among the best. So, if you pick some stocks and passively hold them
maybe you’ll earn half that: 7%. Are you happy with that? Then fine. But
given the volatility in the market I don’t think thats a good enough
return for most people. Look,some people are good. And some people
should invest. But most shouldn’t.
8. Competition, part IV. Some
trading firms set up their operations right next to the buildings with
the computers that process all the trades on the exchanges. They then
pay for high speed cables to go right into these exchanges so their
trades get their before yours. These guys make a lot of money in the
markets by getting in the middle of every bid-ask faster than anyone
else can. Its a race to the bottom but billions are made. So we see now
the way to huge wealth is to either trade in millionths of a second or
to hold huge blocks of your net worth in one stock for years. This is
not a good strategy for 99.9% of people.
9, Well, what about daytrading? A lot of people seem to do that successfully. Please see my article
“8 Reasons Not to Daytrade”.
I got a lot of criticism after that. People wanted to show me their tax
returns to show me how good they daytraded. Get lost, punks. Some
people make millions playing the violin also. Doesn’t mean the other six
billion people on the planet should perform in Carnegie Hall. In any
case, we’re talking about investing in stocks. Not scalping like a
little kid with eight terminals in front of him. And guess what, even
the
best daytraders in the world with twenty year track records go broke sometimes.
10. Stocks are really boring.
Other than Apple, which is a fun stock. I own a stock right now that
cures irritable bowel syndrome, for instance. You know how many hours I
had to research all the drugs for irritable bowel syndrome? And then
talk for many more hours with the CEOs of every irritable bowel syndrome
company? And then try to figure out how big the market is? Not an easy
task. Would you admit in a poll that you have irritable bowel syndrome?
And some of the cures for IBS sound worse than the disease. And then how
do you value one of these companies? Oh my god. Its so boring. And so
now I own this irritable bowel syndrome stock that I think will do well.
But when? Maybe it goes down for five years before it goes up 1000%.
Who knows? Maybe someone has a bad day at the FDA (maybe an undiagnosed
IBS “incident”) and a drug that everyone thought was a no-brainer gets
rejected. Who knows? WHo really knows? No matter how much information
you have about a stock we’re all going to be dead in 100 years anyway.
But hopefully a few less people will be dead from irritable bowel
syndrome. (Btw, aren’t you happy that I didn’t include an image about
IBS here?)
So wait, not so fast. You said you were “incredibly bullish on
stocks”. And you even write about stocks sometimes. So what are you
talking about? Is it all a big scam?
Yeah, it is. But 200mm ipads are going to sell in the next couple of years. So I happen to like Apple. (see also, “
Apple will be the first trillion dollar company“)
And a trillion dollars in stimulus still hasn’t hit the economy. So I
like stocks in general. Not everything has to make perfect sense. Make
your own decisions. Financial media pretends to hold your hand but thats
a big scam also. Look at all the data, then make your own decisions.
The best way to take advantage of a booming stock market is to start a
company. Because everything goes up. If you have an extra $50,000 don’t
put it into stocks. Put it into yourself. You’ll make 10,000% on that
instead of 5% per year.
I’m sitting in a cafe right outside the Wall Street Journal as I
write this. I think lots of stocks are going to go up in the next few
years. I think a lot of people are going to be happy if they wait out
this economy. There’s a guy who works here who doesn’t seem to like me
because he’s sweeping all around me. I think they want to close up and
I’m clearly in his way right now. He wants to go home early, maybe, and
kiss his wife and kids. Hopefully his wife is in a good mood. Maybe
they’ll fool around a little tonight. He’s had a hard day here today. I
hope to god five years from now he’s happier than he is now.